Any idea how many Federal, regional and local departments there are, all working on some aspect of terrorist defense? Or how to maintain confidentiality, and yet break down the very structures that make bureaucracy inflexible? These two speakers understand the problem. Doctor Kiernan has spent 30 years with ATF and other law enforcement bodies and runs courses on the subject. George Naccara tells what it was like to see the 9/11 terrorists walk through security gates at Logan and what has been done there since. These two speakers come to us direct from ‘the firing line’.